Pedini - integra in grey oak.This blog was created in order to put together as much information as possible about European kitchen design, European kitchen companies and the different kitchen brands that have been manufacturing custom kitchens and built in kitchens, in Europe for more then a century.
European kitchen designers are the first ones to introduce what we know today as the ‘built in kitchen’ – kitchens that are no longer ‘free-standing’ pieces of furniture (as they were 100 years ago) but kitchens that are designed to have the cabinetry fitting between two walls.
Companies like Snaidero, Boffi, Pedini, Dada, Varenna and Val Cucine, from Italy, Poggenpohl, SieMatic, Allmilmo and Bulthaup , from Germany and Smallbone and Clive Christian, from England are the pioneers, the innovators and the companies that set the tone in Europe – the same tone that then becomes the new look for kitchen design around the world.
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Hi Kitchenguy,
I’m in Los Angeles building a new home and starting to look at the usual suspects around town; Bulthaup, Poggenpohl, Pedini, Snaidero, Poliform, Boffi, Eggersman and SieMatic.
Are you familiar with the reputation of any of the local dealers? Also, any advice on stack ranking these from a quality and design perspective? I’m looking for a minimalist line, no-handles / touch-open design.
Many thanks!
PS. Have you thought about adding a user forum? Regional forms would be great to post feedback on brands and dealers.
SSH – all are great products and with all you’ll be able to achieve the look you’re after. Not familier with the local dealers, but one, that I stumbled upon online recently, twice is Pedini LA. Look at their work, at 1877 Rising Glen, and at The Manor (former Spelling Mansion), now owned by Billionaire heiress, Petra Ecclestone.
They seem to be the one to go to!
kitchenguy
Hi kitchenguy
We’ve got 2 kitchen designers quoting us (we’re in the UK) – one is Keller Kitchens and the other is Intoto (who use Alno/Wellmann).
Is there any difference in quality between these 2 brands?
Many thanks.
Darren Cooper – Don’t know Keller well. It is a local UK brand…
Sorry…
kitchenguy
Hello Kitchen Guy;
I am very impressed with your blog and your knowledge about European kitchens.
We are presently searching for a price driven European Kitchen Company to distribute exclusively here in Qatar. We Own a 500 SQM Show room for kitchens and wardrobes that are manufactured localy since 1998 and we are looking to display a European brand in our showroom as most of our competitors do here, and we are willing to open a new showroom.
I have looked around and contacted some companies. I am interested in a company with good value with wide range and innovation. (Preferably they produce classic and modern kitchens)and the price is a priority.
Berloni, Venetta, Nolte, EuroMobil, Del Tongo, Dinovo, Nobilia, Alno,Lube, Snaidero …are all represented here.
I think Stosa, Scavolini , Scic , Arrital, Doimo, Aran, Mobalpa might fit what we are looking for.
My question is what other brands would you suggest and how would rank them according to price and what would be your best choices from your experience even though it is not an easy question.
Best Regards
Ralph – this is not a question (that I anser willingly, for free) but a Market Research you’re looking for…
If you wish to hire me to do it for you, please contact me.
kitchenguy
Can you tell me do you prefer boffi or cesar quality/price? I saw display for both brands and can’t tell the difference.
richard cheng – Boffi w/o a doubt! Not even in the same league…
kitchenguy
Hi, we’re looking to buy a new kitchen as part of major refurb. We live in north west london. Can you recommend quality kitchen designer/fitters for modern but understated look. Budget around £20-25k. Thanks.
Tom – try Haecker and Pedini.
kitchenguy
Hi Kitchenguy,
thank you for your great posts.
We are renovating an old house in the middle east and have chosen Valcucine’s total glass look for the main kitchen. We need however 2 extra kitchens: an outdoor one, resistant to salty air and sand storms, and one that can fit into a closet for our guests, like Boffi does.
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you,
Eliane
Eliane – sorry, not aware of any outdoor brands in that part of the world (where exactly are you in the M East?) and not sure who has one that can fit into a closet for our guests, like Boffi does.
kitchenguy
Hello Kitchenguy,
thank you for your answer. I am in Israel, but can import from Italy, Germany or Switzerland, as we will have a container traveling to Israel.
Any suggestion will be welcome
Eliane
Eliane – really not sure what’s available there… Try inoxpack.it for the outdoor kitchen.
kitchenguy
Hi, I am iin the process of furnishing my new home. I’ve looked at both Italian kitchens: miton and arredo3. Have you heard of them? Which one is better?
Thanks,
Noelia – both are similar.
kitchenguy
Between schmidt, arredo3 and miton wchich have better quality?
Noelia – Schmidt
kitchenguy
Hi Kitchen guy! I am looking at veneers what do you know about Varenna veneers VS Pedini veneers?
Sofia Ball – both should be similar quality.
kitchenguy
kitchenguy,
Great blog and vey informative.
Where does Kuhlmann fit in against Hacker, Rotpunkt and Nobilia? You have commented on the other products but not on Kuhlmann.
Thanks,
MT
MT – between Haecker and the other two.
kitchenguy
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Thanks Donny!
Dear kitchenguy,
Can you tell me your opinion about the quality of Astra Cucine?
Thanks
Vanessa – they are a ‘price driven’ product. Good value.
kitchenguy
HI am planning to buy SCHIFFINI in India at Chennai !.Your comments please ?
sumana- good!
kitchenguy
Hi Can you list the following brands.. Schiffini, Scavolini, Alno, Hacker, Aran, Veneta Cucine …
starting from the best…
sumana – Schiffini, Hacker, Alno, Scavolini, Aran, Veneta Cucine
kitchenguy
Hello,
We are planning to renovate our kitchen and we have a budget of £35k. Do you think we can manage to have a modulnova kitchen at this cost range? Or would you recommend us any other kitchen designer with similar style to modulnova and can deliver within our budget range?
Thanks
Emre – not enough info to answer… – finish, size, incl. tops, appliances, fitting…?
kitchenguy
Hi there – would you recommend Hacker or Schmidt for a new kitchen with £20k budget (exc appliances)? Schmidt looked a bit higher quality to me but seems like you very much rate Hacker. Would be interested to know your opinion.
Many thanks!
Rich – Haecker.
kitchenguy
I seen you mentioned a while back that Pedini, Boffi, B&B Italia use the same door manufacturer. Who is this?
Paul – a door supplier in Marche, Italy.
kitchenguy
Hi kitchen guys
I’m thinking of getting ARREDO3 , great kitchen designer , glass aluminium doors looked great,
Also not sure about the appliances
Siemens ( I heard Siemens & neff having back log problems due to fault)
Neff
Miele
Fisher n Paykel
So Kitchen Guy,
Whats the deal with Pronorm?? Good, Bad, Indifferent?
How do they compare in price to a brand like Nolte?
Thank you
Sid
Sid – Pronorm, just like Nolte, are ‘price driven’ products. Very similar in quality.
kitchenguy
I’ve been searching info regarding Multiform, without much luck. What’s your view on their kitchens and great if you rank it price and quality wise against Siematic and Pedini.
Thanks!
Carl – they are a very small Danish company, part of the Ballingslöv group. They only have a couple of outlets outside of Denmark and Norway. You really can’t compare them to SeiMatic and/or Pedini, in any way… Sorry…
kitchenguy
Hi! We are facing the choice: Pedini (mid range) or Cesar. What would be your recommendation? What’s your opinion on Bora extractors?
Alexei – Pedini.
Don’t know enough about Bora to comment.
kitchenguy
Dear kitchen guy
what would be an italian kitchen that compares to scavolini in price and quality, and what would be the medium low ( price) italian kitchen, customs where am from is high so difference in price becomes even bigger and i really want a good italian kitchen
Laith Maraqa – many brands compare to Scavolini – not a simple answer…
kitchenguy
What would be the top 3 value for money spanish kitchens ???
ghadeer AR – not a simple answer and require a full analesys
kitchenguy
Thanks for the great info. I’m looking into a kitchen and bath remodel in Los angeles. For the kitchen, I got quotes from Boffi, Bulthup, pedini and Miton. Miton’s quote was 30% lower than pedini (22k vs 32k), Boffi was 40k and Bulthup 60k!!! Is there a big difference in the quality of pedini vs. Miton? What about Pedini vs. Boffi?
For bathrooms, I’m looking into Boffi vs. Novello… Any preferences or recommendations for other bathrooms companies?
Thanks in advance! Much appreciated.
Renne – a big difference, between Miton and Pedini. Boffi and Bulthaup should be about the same and shouldn’t be much more than Pedini, unless you’re not comparing “apples and apples”…
kitchenguy
which one is a better quality Miton or Pedini? Thanks so much!
Renne – hands down, Pedini!
kitchenguy
Hi there –
How do you compare Pedini’s Materika heat treated oak veneer to Poliform’s veneer in terms of quality? Is Poliform’s veneer worth the big price difference?
Thanks!
Sherry – the quality of the venners is the same – they all come from the same suppliers, in most cases…
kitchenguy
Hi Kitchen guy,
Your website has lot of information on kitchens.
Ian looking for a kitchen for my house.
I had two kitchens earlier in my previous houses.
I had tried Scavolini and Snaidero earlier and Iam happy with both.
This time I have bottomed down on Veneta Cucine and Pedini.
The price difference between both of them is not much.
Would you please advise me on which one would be a better choice in terms of quality.
Thanks for your advice in advance
Reddy
reddy – Pedini is several levels above Venetta… surprising that is is close in price…
kitchenguy
I love Siematic, Bulthaup, and Poggenpohl, but it’s priced a little high. Are there other brands besides Pedini that may be more affordable? What do you think of Pedini’s quality? Do you think the German brands are worth investing a little more for? Thank you for your reply.
elizabeth – there are many, many brands that are more affordable… – where are you located?
Pedini’s quality is as good as Siematic, Bulthaup, and Poggenpohl and shouldn’t be much cheaper (if at all), for the same product specs.
kitchenguy
I am in San Francisco and prefer Italian and German kitchens. So what mid-priced, stylish brands are available in the bay area I might consider. Thanks!
elizabeth – in SF you have lots of choices, but I think you’ve pretty much narrowed it to the top few. if it was me and Pedini was less, I’d go with it.
kitchenguy
Hello Kitchen Guy,
I would like to thank you for taking your time and helping everyone with their kitchen question’s.
My Name is Said and I am from Oman. Given a choice between Snaidero and Rational kitchens and I understand that both brands are part of Snaidero Group, which kitchen you will go with ? (What would you recomend?)
Said – Snaidero
kitchenguy
Which one is a better quality, Pedini or Boffi? Looking into remodeling a kitchen and a bathroom using one of the brands and the price difference is not much
Guy – as far as quality, they are very similar. They are using the same hardware manufacturers, some of the same door suppliers, etc.
kitchenguy
What do you think about Miton kitchen? They have a store in LA and their pricing is very competitive compared to other brands. They told me that they use blum hardware but I was wondering if you know anything about the quality of their kitchen cabinets, handless doors and pantry solutions? Thanks so much!
Kelly – Miton is an ok product. They are not high-end and are ‘price driven’ but if you’re on a budget – they’re ok…
kitchenguy
Dear Kitchenguy.
we are building a new home for our family at the seaside near Hamburg in germany. Currently i am working on the new handleless kitchen. At the moment my choice would be siematic, rational or Leicht. I personally did not like Nobilia, and Bulthaup was too expensive. What would you choose in terms of quality?
Thanks for your help
Stephanie – SieMatic.
kitchenguy
Dear Kitchenguy,
Thanks for a fantastic resource in a very confusing market and for answering directly so many questions. You have been a great source of information!
I have been looking at some kitchen suppliers in my region, but I am a bit confused by how some manufacturers rank in terms of quality. I have seen, and liked a lot, Poggenphol, but it is beyond my budget. Same goes for Siematic. There are not many Italian manufacturers in my region, so I am left with Schmidt, Häcker, Mobalpa, and Störmer as what I think are middle level options. Are they similarly positioned or is the quality of them much better than the others? Would Poggenphol be good enough in terms of an investment to justify making the additional financial effort (more than 10.000 euros)?
Thanks a lot!
Roy – go with Häcker.
kitchenguy
Hi kitchenguy, could you kindly share your knowledge on 2 matters?
1a) Is build quality of the following kitchen brands similar? Modulnova, Varenna, Scic, Snaidaro, Euromobil (all come from good suppliers, so if price and build quality are similar, I will go with the company that produces the best design)
1b) Could you rank them solely on this aspect?
I plan to have light colour cabinets with matt finish: either white/off-white/very light grey.
2a) Is wear & tear on the edges of light coloured, high quality laminate quite visible after a few years?
2b)Is the additional cost of matt laquer in these colours worth the extra cost, and does this type of finish have its own quality issues?
Thanks in advance for all your help.
T
T – 1. They are all very similar.
2a) no.
2b) only you can answer the first and yes – its not as strong.
kitchenguy
Thanks a lot! Good to know. And do any of these brands have a reputation for using better quality laminate / laquers than others or while they all be similar too?
T – very different, in some cases…
kitchenguy
Hi kitchen guy,
I live in Kenya and will be renovating the whole kitchen. Options are Nobilia, Snaidero and Poggenpohl. From the 3 can you categorize them in terms of quality and sustainability? I have not yet shopped to know the difference in price, but your answer will assist me in my options.
Thanks in advance,
M
MINAL – Poggenpohl & Snaidero are similar, Nobilia is in a different league all together…
kitchenguy
Thank you kitchen guy. What about Miton Cucine and Ballerina Kutchen?Which one do you recommend? And in terms of price?
MINAL – Ballerina would be my choice, if all else is equal (finish, price, etc.)
kitchenguy
Hi! Do you know which company is better quality, Astra or Bauformat? Astra is about 20% cheaper. Thanks in advance!
ranit – I feel that they are very similar and for sure not 20% appart…
kitchenguy
hi kitchen guy
is there a website that classifys each kitchen
manufacturer based on quality,affordability,aftersales etc.
im just getting more confused
looking for a quality kitchen at best value for money
imo – this is it…
kitchenguy
Hello Kitchen Guy,
How would you compare Snaidero and Stormer Kitchen. Given the choice between then which one to go with regardless of price
Regards
Said – from a design stand point, I’d take Snaidero, but if you’re looking for a simple kitchen, Störmer is fine.
kitchenguy
hello,
for the same configuration.ARAN volare 22000 $ Pedini artika 30,000 $ .What choose?
elian – Pedini, without a doubt!
kitchenguy
hello,
snaidero ola or pedini artika?
elian – it’s getting harder… Both are great design and quality – go with the one you like better…
kitchenguy
please help me, I have 4 quotes . from nolte, Mobalpa, cucine lube, aran.what do you recomend?
fouzia – from these 4 – Mobalpa.
kitchenguy
Between Leicht and Rational which is the better quality manufacturer for a lacquered finish and overall quality? Your opinion will be much appreciated
Joan – more or less the same.
kitchenguy
Hi, Kitchen guy. I have another question, have you heard of Fiamberti and Copat modern ?
They are kitchen cabinet place in LA and they are using those company. I was wondering if you know about these company. How are their cabinet quality compare to Scavolini, Mitona and Pedini.
Thank you.
Jennifer – they decent quality, but have hardly any representation in the US, so I would be worried about the service level…
They are nicer than Miton, more or less the same as Scavolini and Pedini is better.
kitchenguy
HI, Kitchenguy.
Thank you for your response. This helps a lot to me.
and in your answer, I would assume Pedini is better than Scavolini, right?
then Fiamberti, Copat modern and last will be Miton ( in order of quality ), is that correct?
Thank you soooo much.
Jennifer – that will be the order O put them in.
kitchenguy
Hello Kitchen Guy,
Do you know anything about the American company WoodMode and their high gloss cabinets that they are producing to compete with the European lines? Thank you.
Jo – WoodMode high gloss doors are decent quality, but there is no comperiosn to the real European products and they are actually more expensive…
kitchenguy
Hi Kitchenguy,
We are trying to choose between Cesar, Pedini and Poggenpohl. Could you please tell us which one you would recommend and why?
Thank you in advance.
Alex – all 3 are good, but based on quality and design uniqness i’d go with Pedini and Poogenpohl first.
kitchenguy
Thanks in favor of sharing such a fastidious thought, piece of writing is pleasant, thats why i
ave read it fully
Do you know if Astra manufacture their products in Italy or China?
ranit – Italy
kitchenguy
Hi Kitchenguy – great site – thanks! Which would you choose between Leicht, Pedini and Hacker and why?
tmi – my choice will be Pedini. Higher-end, more exciting designs.
kitchenguy
tmi – Pedini. More exciting designs and much more flexible.
kitchenguy
Deciding between Bulthaup b3 anodized aluminum or Pedini wood veneer. Pedini has this smoked wood finish that I quite like. bulthaup quoted me for around 60k and Pedini more than 10k less. What should I choose? Thanks: )
Weinan – If you like the Pedini finish and its 15% cheaper, I thnk its a ‘no brainer”…
kitchenguy
Hi, I have a quote for Arrex, Veneta Cucine, Nobilia and Stosa. The prices are similar for the same layout. My favourite is the Stosa kitchen in white glass. Would you recommend this company and this finish? And do you think I should chose Stosa over the other 3 companies? Thanks!
Paul – I’m with you – Stosa it is!
kitchenguy
Hi Kitchen Guy. Love the blog. We are looking at both a Hacker and Nolte kitchen. I can see that you are a strong advocate for Hacker but wondered if you consider Nolte decent quality too or are they a long way apart? Are you able to advise on what makes the difference in quality as I have struggled to find any detail (e.g. cabinet construction, materials etc). Many thanks
Anthony – Haecker is a better product from all aspects.
kitchenguy